Dinosaurs Never Existed A Debunking Part 4

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Last time on the walking brain-dead:

Damn you David Wozney, Damn you to hell!

National Geographic and the Ice Age movies were produced by Mason Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. and 20th Century Fox.  The Masonic production company Universal Studios created Jurassic Park and The Land Before Time.  They are owned by Comcast, whose main shareholders are Masons JP Morgan and the Rothschilds.  Discovery Channel which features many dinosaur documentaries is also financially advised by N M Rothschild and Sons Limited.

Well nice to get the crazy right out in the open, isn't it nonexistent studio audience?

Ok, "Mason" Rupert Murdoch has owned Fox since 2013 and with it 73% of national geographic the other 27% is owned by the national geographic society and he also by some recent consequence is acting CEO of fox news as of 2016 (tide goes up, tide goes down you can't explain that!) he is also a republican (but that's neither hear nor there) as for him being a mason I have found no evidence if he is or isn't,so I'll let Hitchy boys razor shave the day.

as for Universal studios, JP Morgan has been dead since 1913 and as for the Rothschild's, if I jump down that rabbit hole I'll never get out but needless to say they are just some rich people, like modern Jew-habsburgs.

Former Paleontology student Michael Forsell claimed on a radio interview with leading paleontologist Jack Horner, that he was “a total fraud, fabricating evidence and perpetuating the myth of dinosaurs.” He continued on saying, “I started my career in the field of paleontology, only to leave my studies once I realized the whole thing was a sham. It’s nonsense, most of the so-called skeletons in museums are actually plaster casts. They even do it openly on documentaries now, preserving the bones my ass! I struggled as a student, mainly because I could not tell the difference between a fossilized egg and an ordinary rock, and of course there is no difference. I was treated like a leper when I refused to buy into their propaganda, and promptly left the course. Dinosaurs never existed, the whole shebang is a freak show, they just grab a couple of old bones and form them into their latest Frankenstein’s monster-like exhibit. If dinosaurs existed they would be mentioned in the Bible. We are all being fooled and it’s wrong, but together we can stop it.”

I couldn't find much on This Michael Forsell guy, but considering what I have just heard he seems to be an intellectual light-weight who thinks his teachers are idiots because the won't tolerate his stupidity (I have met way to many of these for one lifetime) but I think that second last sentence really shows his true colours. At least we still Have Bob Bakker to remind us not all religious people have shit for brains (just like 60% of us with or without em')

Many claim that since dinosaur fossils have been radiometrically dated to be tens of millions of years old that their authenticity is thus proven.  The fact is, however, that the methods used to date dinosaur fossils involve not measuring the actual fossils, but the rocks near where they are found.  Most fossils are found near the surface of the earth, and if a modern-day animal were to die in the area, paleontologists would be likely to date them the same age!  Dr. Margaret Helder in her book “Completing the Picture, A Handbook on Museums and Interpretive Centers Dealing with Fossils,” she writes, “Scientists used to be very impressed with the potential of radiometric for coming up with absolutely reliable ages of some kinds of rocks.  They do not feel that way anymore.  Having had to deal with numerous calculated dates which are too young or too old compared with what they expected, scientists now admit that the process has many more uncertainties than they ever would have supposed in the early years. The public knows almost nothing about uncertainties in the dating of rocks.  The impression that most people have received is that many rocks on earth are extremely old and that the technology exists to make accurate measurements of the ages.  Scientists have become more and more aware however that the measurements which the machines make, may tell us nothing about the actual age of the rock.”

I am lucky today, I don't have to put doctor in quotation marks, Dr.Helder seem to actually have a p.h.d.. She is also a "creation scientist" and she writes many scathing articles that I'm sure really hurt Darwin's feelings, and as far as her real contributions to science... she discovered a new species of aquatic fungus in 1971... well I guess as a an "accomplished" "scientist" she has the right to speak about an area of science she knows nothing about, seem legit. 

One of the main reasons that evolutionists “needed” the existence of dinosaurs was to answer the complicated problems present in the theory of evolution including: sea-dwelling animals evolving into land-dwellers; reptiles evolving wings, feathers, flying and becoming birds; as well as other reptiles evolving warm-blood, live births, breasts and becoming mammals.  Through their imaginary multi-million-year timeline and a variety of supposed transitional dinosaur forms, the paleontological establishment has been promoting various sea-dinosaur, reptile/birds and reptile/mammals to bridge these gaps.  Many professionals and experts in the field have disputed such findings as often as they have been presented, however.  Dr. Storrs Olson, a Smithsonian Institute Scientist, wrote, “The idea of feathered dinosaurs and the theropod origin of birds is being actively promulgated by a cadre of zealous scientists acting in concert with certain editors at Nature and National Geographic who themselves have become outspoken and highly biased proselytizers of the faith.  Truth and careful scientific weighing of evidence have been among the first casualties in their program, which is now fast becoming one of the grander scientific hoaxes or our age.” 

Dr.Olson did in 1999 believe that their was no link between dinosaurs and birds, I have no Idea if his views have changed but it doesn't matter. your constant appeals to authority are starting to bring back repressed memories (
Damn you David Wozney, Damn you to hell!) I should also ad that in this instance Dr.Olson had a valid criticism of national geographic's jumping the gun on the now known hoax Archaeoraptor.

No authentic feathers have ever been found with dinosaur fossils, though a few exposed hoaxes certainly attempted to fake it.  Dr. Olson called the adding of feathers to their findings “hype, wishful thinking, propaganda, nonsense fantasia, and a hoax.”  In the 1990s many fossils with feathers were supposedly discovered in China (suspiciously close to the Zigong Dino Ocean Art Company), but when examined Dr. Timothy Rowe found the so-called “Confuciusornis” was an elaborate hoax.  He also found the “Archeoraptor” supposedly discovered in the 90s was composed of bones from 5 different animals!  When Dr. Rowe presented his findings to National Geographic the head scientist reportedly remarked “well all of these have been fiddled with!  National Geographic then proceeded with their news conferences and media stories about the Archeoraptor fossils being genuine and having found the missing link in evolution.

Ok... first of all the exact spot where the original Confuciusornis fossil was found can't be narrowed down further than it was in the Yixian formation (in Jinzhou, Liaoning ) , which if by "suspiciously close to the Zigong Dino Ocean Art Company" (in Zigong, Sichuan) you mean a 25 hr drive (over 2,000 kilometers) and with over 40 or so toll roads to go on, but you could just walk it It, would only take you 558 hours.

side note: also the ever so popular concept of "the missing Link" is so asinine that I won't get into it.

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“No authentic feathers have ever been found with dinosaur fossils, though a few exposed hoaxes certainly attempted to fake it.Dr. Olson called the adding of feathers to their findings “hype, wishful thinking, propaganda, nonsense fantasia, and a hoax.”In the 1990s many fossils with feathers were supposedly discovered in China (suspiciously close to the Zigong Dino Ocean Art Company), but when examined Dr. Timothy Rowe found the so-called “Confuciusornis” was an elaborate hoax.He also found the “Archeoraptor” supposedly discovered in the 90s was composed of bones from 5 different animals!When Dr. Rowe presented his findings to National Geographic the head scientist reportedly remarked “well all of these have been fiddled with!”National Geographic then proceeded with their news conferences and media stories about the Archeoraptor fossils being genuine and having found the missing link in evolution.”




I can comment on Timothy Rowe and Archeoraptor based off what I have found. Either Dubay is lying, rather ironically since he’s supposedly exposing what he says are lies or just doesn’t do proper research. Based off of Dubay’s definition of a hoax even archeoraptor is not one. It wasn’t a fossil animal fabricated from scratch but was a composite of two fossil animals, the bird Yanornis, and the dromaeosaur Microraptor poorly glued together with cement used in floor tiling. The media calling it a hoax is odd to me as it wasn’t a hoax in the traditional sense as no one fabricated it to intentionally fool them. Archeoraptor and the confucisornis cited by Rowe were found by poor farmers who sloppily excavated them from the shale and then “prepared” them by glueing the fractured pieces together in the before mentioned cement. In archeoraptor this appears to be intentional, but again, not to fool paleontologists but simply because it was a poor farmer trying to make a quick buck. The confuciousornis example is even less of a hoax. Rowe and his colleagues who studied the fossil bird found a few foreign bone fragments in the specimen, also excavated by a farmer, that were probably embedded in it by accident. I’ll post the actual study that appears to be Dubay‘s source below, as he of course, cites nothing.


https://www.nature.com/articles/sdata201640.pdf